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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:36:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:I have refrained from public comment on this issue because of all the ongoing CSM/CCP consultations, but now that CCP has issued their statement, I feel it is only appropriate to give my perspective.
Lying, cheating, general douchebaggery and the harvesting of tears are all part of the "sandbox" that is the game of EVE Online.
But that said, all of us have a responsibility to recognize when a fellow player is starting to lose emotional control -- when things stop being a game -- and respond in a humane manner. And deliberately trying to induce and deepen that loss of control is reprehensible conduct that should shock and dismay the vast majority of the community.
So the tl/dr for me is: Feel free be a douchebag inside the sandbox, but if you kick the sand outside of the sandbox, don't be surprised if CCP kicks you out of the sandbox as well.
Stuff like losing your sh*t on comms and bitching out the people in your fleet is not something I would worry about. Nor is making people sing for their ship.
But if you make someone sing for their ship and then sadistically wratchet up the psychological pressure until they are a total wreck, then you're a real-life scumbag, and I won't shed a tear if CCP decides they no longer care to do business with you. Huh.. so this is official now? EVE is the game where you can learn how to scam, be a douche and overall learn how to ruin other peoples day? Well, then I call it an educational game and maybe it should be allowed to be played in prisons too. Also no court should be allowed to condemn an EVE player.. they learned all these skills in the game and it took years of training... they are heroes after all. Wonder how come no somalians play the game yet... |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:09:00 -
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I think everybody misunderstood CCP. Scamming people out of game is totally legit and legal now! Personally I'm very happy with the response as I had the misconception that only "light" scams are allowed.. like selling a plex and also request another 2 plex. Now that I know there is no limit and we are allowed to scam people out of the game, I'm in with full steam. Starting tomorrow I will create a scam alt and do serious business.
This is glorious.. it will bring a lot of new people to the game. Personally I know a few dudes whom may be very interested in this "game" and they know few tricks. The only thing I will not do is the mayo game.. except is the victim is a female :P
Thanks CCP! |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:21:00 -
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Bing Bangboom wrote: Erotica 1 reports that he cannot log into his account and believes himself to have been banned. He says he has had no communication with CCP explaining if its temporary or permanent. He also says
"I do regret that CCP did not provide me one iota of guidance as I repeatedly requested in forums regarding bonus rounds and the like. I have been handed a rather long rope (the sandbox) to metaphorically hang myself with. "
So, it may be that everyone is now safe from having someone talk them into giving them their Eve stuff and then making fun of them when they do it. Eve is saved.
BBB That's a shame :( I was really looking to do a glory hole with him (no mayo tho)). Ero dude.. I feel ya :( |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:42:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?16342-The-Bonus-Round&p=1053833&viewfull=1#post1053833 Did anyone told you that you need a big Dislike button? A really BIG one! |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 18:50:00 -
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voetius wrote:Bing Bangboom wrote: Erotica 1 reports that he cannot log into his account and believes himself to have been banned. He says he has had no communication with CCP explaining if its temporary or permanent. He also says
"I do regret that CCP did not provide me one iota of guidance as I repeatedly requested in forums regarding bonus rounds and the like. I have been handed a rather long rope (the sandbox) to metaphorically hang myself with. "
So, it may be that everyone is now safe from having someone talk them into giving them their Eve stuff and then making fun of them when they do it. Eve is saved.
BBB The problem with these sort of issues is that people will spin them whatever way suits their prejudices as seen in the recent threadnaught. In the case of the quote above, if CCP had stepped in and laid down the law then there could quite well have been more outrage for "interfering in the sandbox, blah blah". It's a no-win situation in many ways. Yeah right.. CCP banned Mittani for a month, then burn Jita started. Are you serious.. these bans are only for the press. We are free to fuk up anybody we want.. only rule is to be outside of game ;) We are safe now :) |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 19:17:00 -
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Here is a direct question to you as a fail politician. Why I should vote you.. or anybody else? So far your an useless nothing, the whole CSM is a joke. Dafuq are guys doing there except drinking shiat with ccp? Look at the reprocessing blog.. you were owned by the major null sec alliances and you are nothing more like a pet. So remind me.. why I need to vote for csm?
I can scam and fuk up people without your support nor ccp EULA &shiat.. really.. give me a really good reason why ANY eve players should vote! |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 19:25:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Kaius Fero wrote:Here is a direct question to you as a fail politician. Why I should vote you.. or anybody else? So far your an useless nothing, the whole CSM is a joke. Dafuq are guys doing there except drinking shiat with ccp? Look at the reprocessing blog.. you were owned by the major null sec alliances and you are nothing more like a pet. So remind me.. why I need to vote for csm? I can scam and fuk up people without your support nor ccp EULA &shiat.. really.. give me a really good reason why ANY eve players should vote! The CSMs been a joke since the beginning lol the whole REASON for it in the first place was to go to Iceland and watchdog CCP so that another T20 couldnt happen. That was impossible to start with lol Well.. I hate politicians with a passion. Good news is that in EVE I can kill them over an over.. and over. Maybe bring them in a glory hole with a lot of prizes. Malcanis.. do you like mayo? |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 19:31:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Kaius Fero wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Kaius Fero wrote:Here is a direct question to you as a fail politician. Why I should vote you.. or anybody else? So far your an useless nothing, the whole CSM is a joke. Dafuq are guys doing there except drinking shiat with ccp? Look at the reprocessing blog.. you were owned by the major null sec alliances and you are nothing more like a pet. So remind me.. why I need to vote for csm? I can scam and fuk up people without your support nor ccp EULA &shiat.. really.. give me a really good reason why ANY eve players should vote! The CSMs been a joke since the beginning lol the whole REASON for it in the first place was to go to Iceland and watchdog CCP so that another T20 couldnt happen. That was impossible to start with lol Well.. I hate politicians with a passion. Good news is that in EVE I can kill them over an over.. and over. Maybe bring them in a glory hole with a lot of prizes. Malcanis.. do you like mayo? Mayo is delicious. Only make it with really fresh free range eggs and good quality oil, though. Choose your oil according to what your mayo is going to be used for. Oil! That's important if you have no ****! But hey. we can use ICE. Yes.. I'm a pervert :( |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 19:36:00 -
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I'm about to have a relationship with a politician and you guys are trolling me :/ |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 19:40:00 -
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You know what? Fuk u all/ Malkan is mine!! Or is Malkanis.... ? |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 19:45:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:... The CSM has a unanimous position on this. CCP have fully satisfied us that they are acting according to the existing TOS & EULA and that erotica1 was fairly treated according to the existing rules. Satisfy.. your so erotic! Wanna meet me in a private glory hole channel? Politicians turns me on :| |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 19:53:00 -
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I feel your hot.
Im no gay, but ... nudge nudge ... you know what I mean .. do your wife make sports? Or photographs? |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 20:07:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Jebediah Phoenix wrote:So we can get perma-banned now for asking people to do a little song and dance? When the "victim" wasn't punished for racism and death threats? When apparently encouraging someone to commit suicide is worth only a 3 month ban?
Yeah, nice priorities CCP. Successful witch hunt guys. No you will not get permabanned for that. Unfortunatley you will be required to exercise your adult judgement on when you're on the threshold of taking it too far. If you feel yourself incapable of reliably doing that, then I suggest you err on the side of caution. You think is problem if I stalk you? Is all about love after all :( And your wife... :P |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 20:20:00 -
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Refresh us.. why the community should vote fore you? Except being a goon pet,,,
I mean.. if I need a scam king, I vote for any goon... |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 20:41:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Kaius Fero wrote:Refresh us.. why the community should vote fore you? Except being a goon pet,,, I mean.. if I need a scam king, I vote for any goon... The answer will cost you all your ISK and stuff. Full API verification will be required. ...u die in fire.. Same with the knight of NI
errrr sorry bout that. Now, lets get back to the tea :) |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:00:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:Malcanis may have not been the CSM you wanteed but he was the one you deserved and I agree
He has been a hero in these threads.
Read back. He stood in front of the mob, demanding due process and then has been tryiong to explain to you that due process has now taken place
When things don't go your way don't blame Atticus Finch
m A hero? A hero you say?!
Now... can I ask this hero Malkanis and his wife in a round of glory hole? No mayo tho! |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:05:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:So freedom of speech is supported up until someone's feelings get hurt, then its hate speech and pitchfork time? Pretty much sum it up from a CCP and pansy CSM perspective? I offer a closing scene from ' A Few Good [Scammers]'... Col. Erotica1: "Son, we live in a [sandbox], and that [sandbox] has to be guarded by men with [guts]. Who's gonna do it? You [Malcanis]? You, Lt. [Ripard]? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for [Sohkar], and you curse the [scammers]. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That [Sohkar's bonus room], while tragic, probably [entertained many]. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, [entertains many]. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me [in that sandbox], you need me [in that sandbox]. We use words like [awox], [scam], [metagame]. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very [content] that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a [teamspeak client], and [scam someone]. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to." Col. Erotica1: "[contemptuously] You f#ckin' people... you have no idea how to defend a [sandbox]. All you did was weaken [the meta game] today, [pansies]. That's all you did. You put people's [sandbox] in danger. Sweet dreams, son." Guardians of the players my arse, CSM should be disbanded immediately. F Well you've already stated you're not voting under any circumstances, so, you know, whatever. Also CCP aren't going to disband the CSM no matter how mad you get. I bet that makes you pretty mad, huh? I fukin love you! And your family! :) Yes.. I'm a perv ... I should be a goon, a lite bee :) |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:21:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:So if you've clearly defined the lines, is it against the rules to ransom for a song, and if a "victim" of the ransom were to feel harassed, would that mean it's over the line? How many songs are "too many"?
If it's so clear, it will be pretty straightforward to answer right? Do you think you're capable of detecting when you're pushing another human being over the line? You re not human, you are a politician. You should be .... |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:36:00 -
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I wanna scam, gank &**** = goon. But hey, I'm also cheap.. no tenbux :( Should I shoot somebody to get in the line? I'm a 1% biker .. so you know.... |
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Kaius Fero
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Posted - 2014.03.28 23:08:00 -
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I the case that none know how a glory hole works out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_bsMGsBjWc
Oh dear....
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